Comments on: The Truth about Xbox Live Bannings

By: ammar

ammar — Sun, 31 Jan 2010 19:28:16 +0000

my cd in xbox not original I want play online but I scard from banned live
please help me
I want software or program for play online

By: OtakuJhe

OtakuJhe — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 07:11:47 +0000

Trust me Dan, Gaming Industries are losing a huge amount of dough because of this. It's not a scam. Piracy is a parasite like a tape worm or tick. It's unhealthy to the industries.

By: Geezack

Geezack — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:32:57 +0000

Well… when you think about it; used games != money for publishers/devs, right? With that said; neither are pre-used consoles. I think you put yourself at risk if you buy a used console, they don't check those things you know. My friend bought a PSP used and it had CFW, but the clerks didn't know and now it go bricked. Wonderful.

PS:
Before replying, please be sure that you:

1. Purchased your console brand new and unopened from a reputable retailer.

So there; clearly stated. Pre-used are not good. Also, if you buy 200$ worth of DLC surely you have enough for another Xbox.

By: Vladko

Vladko — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:17:00 +0000

It's for sure that if Micro$oft takes back stuff that I paid for due to some error on their part I take this as justification to figure out how to pirate games and never pay them anymore.

By: Ageny75

Ageny75 — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:29:48 +0000

I don't want to banter on too much, but bottom line: most people who have a modded 360 are playing copy games, end of. Saying that, I bet everyone who's got a modded 360 is playing copt games. It's a known fact that if you repair a console yourself or take it somewhere else to get it repaired, Microflop, Sony and Nintendo don't like this, more so Microflop by the sound of it. Also, you take a risk when you buy a used 360, wether you buy it from a store or a person. The only way to check is to get the serial number then call Microflop is they'll answer the fone that is. And for people who live in the UK, under UK Consumer Law, your 360 is actually under warranty for 6 years, not 1 year. If you call Consumer Direct, they'll confirm this. I bought my 360 at the start of 2006 and I'm on to my 6th console from one purchase. Just make sure you have your receipt though. Oddly, this isn't stated in the manual, stores don't tell you this and whoever makes the console don't tell you this.

By: Tizack

Tizack — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:29:06 +0000

Lets start with 3 Words… Johnny Chung Lee…….

That being Said, Microsoft is either a Huge Hypocrite or the main reason for the bannings is get a boost in sales this holiday season, because for the past couple months it has been trailing the PS3.

Who is Johhny Chung Lee you might Ask? He got alot of popularity for his posted projects for doing mods with wii hardware. Soon after he found himself an employee for microsoft. Some of his focus is on projects such as NATAL. So the idea that Microsoft Frowns on modding or people not using Hardware for its proper use for the good of all humanity of some ethical moral reason, is a pile of crap. Its all about the Money…

Anyone who thinks Microsoft's Main reason for dropping this hammer hard is not to boost holiday sales numbers is either uninformed, unintelligent, or blinded by loyalty. It is an obvious choice for MS since the past couple months their numbers have seen them at the bottom. This can give a visible boost to their console sales giving their Marketing analysts at least something to work with.

By: Coach Ditka

Coach Ditka — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 18:54:56 +0000

Yeah, they can get back on Live with a new console. Only now, they don't have a modded console that can be used to cheat and fcuk up the online gaming community. And, yes, pirates ARE criminals. I hope some day you make something cool to sell, and a ton of low-lifes copy your work and take payment for your work. That would make me smile.

By: Pooey

Pooey — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:44:25 +0000

I am no fan of Microsoft and the way they do business but you are wrong. It absolutely means they can ban you for unauthorized repairs. If it is in their terms of service then they have given people advanced warning. Say you have your 360 repaired 3 times by an outside repair source-i.e. not Microsoft and the fourth time you get the red ring and send it to Microsoft to get repaired and they see it has been opened for some reason before. The reason they can and would ban you and you would lose in court is because their technology is proprietary and they do not want/allow unauthorized persons to open their systems so that they can prevent other outside people who are techies from copying what they have done. Also, I used to be an assistant manager at a movie theatre and we would not kick people out for sneaking food in when we caught them but instead would confiscate the product and return it at the end of the movie. Cops/security guards were never involved unless the customer became aggressive and/or hostile.

By: Doug Livenstein

Doug Livenstein — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:34:18 +0000

It's actually against health code to bring food prepared from another establishment into a department of health liscensed operating establishment. Seems crazy, but a movie theatre has the same guidelines as a restaurant. It's their loophole that they can exploit of course. Go ahead, try eating Taco Bell in a Wendy's. I dare you.

By: jay

jay — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:50:05 +0000

2 things… first every major company the only thing they care about is money, specially Sony, and nintendo, at least M$ paid 1 billion in repairs. Second you are a sony fan boy… If you have a 360 and you are playing CODMW2 in your PS3 you are missing a big part of the fun… I own both consoles and a friend brought the PS3 version of the game, the on-line is terrible.

By: Panzer General

Panzer General — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:49:45 +0000

PIRATES?? FFS! It makes a tiny difference to revenue when people download games illegally! It is the fookin stores that sell 2nd hand software that are the real pirates! The 2nd hand gaming market is the real killer! Take tis example, GAME will pay you £20 for mw2, They take a profit of around 90% (probobly higher) some of the 10% goes to couriers, some goes to the developer. Basically, IW would get around 50 pence of EACH 2nd and copy! What a crock of poo Microsoft speak! It's just another way to get more money out of us!

By: mumbo101

mumbo101 — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:34:19 +0000

i dont understand how you say it hurts the game companies. if i was going to pirate a game. obviously i had no intention of buying it..so that company wasnt going to get my 60 dollars anyways. peoples logic is broken

By: Jenni

Jenni — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 15:51:02 +0000

I would agree with your "everyone here is a moron" stance if it weren't for the fact that Microsoft may ban a console for being OPENED, not just modded. That means if my console red rings and I don't want to pay them an arm and a leg to fix it and wait a month, and I fix it myself without modding anything, potentially my console could be banned. That's what's upsetting about this situation. And while cheaters and modders may have nothing to do with making money, denying people the right to fix their own console is totally about making money because it only gives people the option of paying Microsoft to do it.

By: Kirk

Kirk — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 15:14:23 +0000

You guys are such morons, and so is the guy who wrote this. Whats so bad is you people are the same people who complain because MS does not ban all the racists on XBL. As if there is a fair and safe way to ban only mean racist people.

Microsoft does not care how your system got modded or opened up, the point is you cannot have modified hardware running on XBL, period, its unfair to folks who did not cheat by modding their consoles. Who cares if you purchased it modded, its still modded you idiots!

And this has nothing to do with making money because if your some "innocent" gamer who got his box banned, your going to buy a PS3, not another Xbox.

By: nobodyishome

nobodyishome — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 15:06:32 +0000

Just because the Terms say you can't use another repair facility doesn't mean that they can legally prevent you (or punish you). Companies do this kind of thing all the time. They put illegal rules and regulations in their policies because they know that most people won't take the time (or spend the money) to overturn them. For instance, it's illegal for a Movie Theater to prevent you from bringing in outside food or drink. However, they can have you physically removed from the property (even by police force), because they have the right to do so. How would you rectify this? Sue 'em. If you can prove they kicked you out for bringing in a Taco Bell cup, you win. The same would go here. If you proved that your repair man simply fixed a hardware issue on your 360–and that he used only Microsoft approved hardware to do it–then you certainly have a right to what you did. The problem is proving it, finding a lawyer and paying the bill. Honestly, buying a new 360 is cheaper in the short-run. And the short-run is what most people care about. And Microsoft knows this.

By: The Truth

The Truth — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:51:00 +0000

This article sucks.

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Xbox Live Bannings: The Truth : In Entertainment — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:44:46 +0000

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By: Cortez

Cortez — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 12:37:07 +0000

NO-ONE got banned from Live. Not a single person got banned. Their CONSOLE got banned: there's a huge difference. All the individual has to do is buy another console and they're back on Live immediately. So all it was was a slap on the wrist for these so-called "criminals destroying the industry": MS just said "give us some more money and all will be fine".

Big December NPD numbers for Microsoft confirmed. Trebles all round…..though expect Greenberg to completely ignore this when he whoops at the 360's big numbers.

By: M$ fail

M$ fail — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 12:16:10 +0000

PS3: 299, XBOX360: Priceless

By: Dirk

Dirk — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 11:38:17 +0000

While I can envision Microsoft wielding the ban hammer with great glee I would say they wouldn't want to upset the Apple Cart too much in this case. X-Box Live is Revenue Stream for Microsoft and cutting off that source of money is not something that Microsoft would do unless a greater problem such as piracy is the reason. In this case I bet Microsoft is probably correct when they ban people.

By: You fail

You fail — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 11:25:24 +0000

First off let me start off with that your title is misleading. Microsoft is well within it rights with banning and everyone who gets banned deserves it, if you buy a used xbox from a stranger your a retard and deserv it too if it has been modded, you responseble for what happens or happened on your console

By: Mehere

Mehere — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 10:53:51 +0000

Well, to beggin with you bough this shody POS console, from a company that is KNOWN to constantly try to ACHIEVE!!! monopoly, by any means necessary….what did you expect? Since this gen started, and that POS beggan its RROD saga, I knew I would never buy one, the games may be great, but its not worth all the problem and head ache they come with. And since its adorable fanboys keep buying it, one after another after it broke on them, ruined their disks, sounds more than a jet, and so on, MS could care less if they are banning a few thousand innocents with the pirates. THEY DO NOT CARE AT ALL! The sheep will come back for more! IF anything MS prooved that you can give the shaft to its userbase without a care in the world and they will come back. Enjoy it!!!

By: C4BL3

C4BL3 — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 10:47:57 +0000

I can see both sides of this. but it is well known that you can get banned for "dectable" mods. if you buy a 360 used off a noncredible source you do run the risk of many things being wrong with the system. M$ is money hungry but hey if I could boost sales by banning millions of consoles so be it, the kids gotta eat.

By: name

name — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 07:06:18 +0000

i cant see the issue here.
its common sense NOT to buy a 360 used, if you buy one used your a idiot.
i mean seriously with the 360s reliability rate pathetically low your asking for troubles buying it used, as ive always been told buying something used is buying someone else problems.
and so what if you get banned?
modding your console costs 200 bucks.
2 games and boom you paid for the mod, 4 games and boom you saved yourself enough money to buy a new one.
so whats the issue?
i cant believe how people bitch about absolutely nothing!
you break the law and get punished for it and their complaining.
i dont see people complaining about being thrown in jail for steeling.
as the saying goes if you cant do the time dont do the crime.
if you cant handle the heat, keep out of the kitchen.

By: Eric Addison Doepke

Eric Addison Doepke — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 06:52:39 +0000

I don’t think that places like GameStop DO check them out actually. However I also don’t think that there are many people who sell back modded boxes. I also think the banning has little to do with MW2 and more to do with the obvious fact that MS and it’s affiliates want you to spend money on their products.

By: Missing

Missing — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 06:38:24 +0000

I have to agree with Ditka on this one. Hopefully if a system goes to a Gamestop or the like they check them out.

By: Coach Ditka

Coach Ditka — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 06:02:58 +0000

I seriously doubt that there are a large number of unfair bannings. The unfair part is that a lot of these banned systems will be sold to unknowing people by the shady pieces of sh** that got banned for being shady pieces of sh**.

By: Chris

Chris — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 05:10:27 +0000

Your missing the point though. They are talking about UNFAIR banning. Innocent people being banned because of Microsh*t being careless with bannings. I have a PS3 anyway so I don't have to worry about this. Sorry to everyone having banning problems!

By: Yaboy_is_dumb

Yaboy_is_dumb — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 03:47:09 +0000

Yaboy, u sound like a M$ fanboy defending them from looking bad. U know pretty darn well that m$ is known for low level bullcrap that gets them money, they have done it since the beginning of this generation…. Why do u think ppl put a $ in M$? All they care about is money. Thrydont give a rats @$$ about their consumers, if they ever do… I’ll cut off my left nut…..ok, I won’t but u get the idea. I see them doing it more for boosting sales this holiday to makes their sales look good since no one wants the crappy shitty breaking POS anymore, ps3 is better and that’s why sales are higher, and yes I have a 360, do I play it? Hardly….

By: yaboy

yaboy — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 03:19:25 +0000

The main reason they did all the banning is because of call of duty. They didnt want people with a modded xbox to cheat online with one of best online games ever period. Its not for money purposes and if you think that then ur either one of the modders or just dumb. Its called loyalty to its unmodded xbox customers.

By: ikaris11

ikaris11 — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 03:05:27 +0000

I think that sounds pretty feasible. Very par for M$

By: dan

dan — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 01:55:53 +0000

I think its funny that this mass banning happened just in time for the holiday shopping season. This is just a scummy way for Microsoft to boost console sales this Christmas so they can brag about it next spring.

By: Robert

Robert — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 01:44:22 +0000

Provided your "trusted" repair guy doesn't add anything to the console that shouldn't be there, nothing will come of it.

By: Jenni

Jenni — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:29:20 +0000

That would really piss me off after spending $50 on a repair from my trusted electronics guy. That's so unfair.